NOTES REFLECTING

LITTLE RIVER NECK COMMUNITY MEETING

TIDEWATER PLANTATION COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AMENITY CENTER

APRIL 26, 2018

PANEL:

Mark Lazarus, Chair Horry County Council

Harold Worley, Horry County Councilman, District 1

Tony Cox, Commissioner, SCDOT, Seventh District

Bob Cavanaugh, Vice Mayor, City of North Myrtle Beach

Fred Coyne, Councilman, City of North Myrtle Beach

Niki Fontana, Councilwoman, City of North Myrtle Beach

Terry White, Mayor Pro Tem, City of North Myrtle Beach

Danny Knight, Executive Director, Horry County Solid Waste Authority

Mike Mahaney, City Manager, City of North Myrtle Beach

Cathy Weis, Host and Moderator, President, Tidewater Plantation Community Association Board of Directors

Also Attending:

Steve Gosnell, Assistant Horry County Administrator for Infrastructure and Regulation

Lt. Amos Berry, Horry County Police Environment Services

David Schwerd, Senior Planner, Horry County Planning and Development

Kevin Blayton, Director of Public Works/City Engineer, City of North Myrtle Beach

Jim Wood, Director of Planning & Development, City of North Myrtle Beach

DISCUSSION TOPICS

  • GROWTH AND DENSITY

When asked about the designation in the proposed Comprehensive Plan for the Little River Neck area as Conservation Community, Jim Wood assured everyone the label is a low-density designation. He said the designation provided more structure to the low-density designation, such as requiring identification of and preservation of natural areas and features while allowing development around those features and natural area. County Chairman Lazarus stated that the county would reflect in the county comprehensive plan whatever future land uses for the Little River Neck area the City adopted in theirs.

  • TURN AND ACCELERATION LANES FOR ALL NEW DEVELOPMENTS

City Manager Mike Mahaney explained that the application of this requirement would be based on the number of houses being built and the current traffic count. It was noted that the DR Horton community, Waters Edge, north of Tidewater, was originally planned prior to the current requirements.

Planning and Development Director Jim Wood added that there are engineer standards that apply based on the average daily trips per day that a project will generate. He emphasized that the city had heard the community say that they want us to pay special attention to that along Little River Neck Road.  The NMB Comprehensive Plan acknowledges and reflects this is a community desire. The City’s intention is to ensure that the analysis is done and supported by data. Wood assured the community that they would not take any development in isolation but would consider future potential growth. 

A community member asked what could be done making left turns from the marsh side of LRN Rd, expressing the view that many times it is very difficult to do so safely and as the density increased it will become even more difficult, citing as an example, left turns out of Charleston Landing. Jim Wood responded that the only way it could be done would be with a signalize intersection with a protected left turn and that would have to be justified with traffic studies. City Manager Mike Mahaney said the cost of a signalized intersection is about $250,000 and would be glad to consider it if Charleston Landing picked up the cost.

  • ADDITION OF A MULTIPATH FROM HILL ST. ALONG LRN RD

County Chairman Lazarus stated that funding for the multipath from the RIDE II surplus is way off in the future and emphasized that the surplus monies were there for the entire county’s need.

Instead, for the multipath section from Hill Street to Riverside Drive, the county is looking to the CTC (the Community Transportation Committee) as a likely source. He noted that since the last meeting the state passed an increase in the gasoline tax of which a majority went across the state to fix bad roads. But at the same time, the State did enhance the funding to the CTCs in each county, so the Horry County CTC is going to get a lot more money than they have in the past. Councilman Worley is going to utilize $50,000 from the casino boat tax money and with the increased CTC money, the county money, the city money and help from SCDOT, County Chairman Lazarus said they would collectively be pleading that case to the CTC. With the city, the county and the State bringing money to the project, he felt that there was a pretty good chance of getting full funding.  While no time frame could be committed, he felt this would be faster than waiting for RIDE II surplus funds.

City Manager Mahaney added to the conversation that the cost of the multipath section from Hill Street to Riverside Drive would be a million dollars and the section from Hill Street to Sea Mountain Highway would add eight hundred thousand dollars to the project.

A community member asked if golf carts would be allowed to use the multipath. City Manager Mahaney responded no; state law prohibits golf carts using paths for pedestrians and bicyclists.

  • THE ADDITION OF TWO-FOOT SHOULDERS ON BOTH SIDES OF LRN RD

TPCA BOD President Weis summarized the issues with LRN Rd and noted that at the last meeting, County Chairman Lazarus estimated the cost of such a project at around $750,000.

Commissioner Tony Cox said that the biggest problem facing this project is that LRN Rd is in good shape. Roads across the state are bad, some in amazingly bad shape. He recounted several examples include citing one bridge in Dillon County that has been out for two years. The commission got that pushed up on the list so that folks don’t have to travel hours to get back to their houses.  He said he thought Little River Neck Road would qualify for the rural road assist program. The issue is that beginning with the second year of the gas tax, funding will be getting better and SCDOT will be able to get some of the deplorable roads fixed.  Afterwards, SCDOT could certainly get some work done on LRN Rd.  He said he couldn’t promise it could be done in the next year or two, but he thought it would qualify for the rural road assist program.  As the road is narrow, Commissioner Cox thought it was a good candidate. 

In response to a question from the community, County Councilman Worley explained that the right of way was 66-foot-wide providing room for both the multipath and the two-foot widening. When asked how these projects would impact the houses along the road, Councilman Worley explained that the homes were well set back and that one could get a good feel for the right-of-way from where the county fence had been placed.

  • CROSSING WALKWAYS, SIGNAGE

City Manager Mike Mahaney said they were in the process of working on the proposals but first emphasized that LRN Rd is a state road. There is a SCDOT process that must be followed.

As to the playground/school sign the downside is that the speed limit would have to be lowered by ten miles an hour. He said that if the sign is erected the speed limit would drop to twenty-five miles an hour. He added that he personally could not support the request and has directed his staff to say no. He also felt there would be a lot of blow back by the center’s neighbors if that happened. He concluded by saying he was not sure SCDOT would approve them.

The other signs for the churches are in the process but the downside is that SCDOT will paint a yellow stipe down the road and prohibit parking within 15 feet of the road. He was not sure the Churches would find this acceptable.

  • WILDFIRE HAZARD

TPCA BOD President Cathy Weis reminded those gathered of the Highway 31 wildfire that burned 15,000 acres in 2009 started by a homeowner burning debris on his property. A County burning ban east of the Intracoastal waterway was discussed at the last meeting and a subject of a subsequent newspaper article. She asked for a status from County representatives.

Chairman Lazarus responded it was in the Public Safety Committee and were still debating it. He pointed out this is a large county with a lot of diverse interests and they receive calls each day from farmers and developers saying they must be able to burn. 

The plan that is in the works is no burning east of the waterway. They are also looking at the potential of a certain area or subdivision could apply for a ban and it could be voted on by the Council similar to the county’s fireworks ordinance.

The first thing we will see come about, that Mr. Worley has garnered plenty support for on the Council, is a fire ban east of the waterway.

TPCA BOD President Cathy Weis said while most would support that ban, it would cause some difficulties for our neighbors. Our neighbors along LRN Rd commonly burn their trash and if there was a ban, as much as I would like it because we live in a pine forest, a tinderbox, we need some solutions for them as well.

Danny Knight, Executive Director, Horry County Solid Waste Authority informed the gathering that the Authority used to work with the Rev. Jones who would coordinate with the community and with Tidewater residents to do a cleanup. The Authority would bring out roll-out containers, but they would not be there permanently. He explained placing them permanently would cause more problems than the community currently has. He said the Authority is still willing to do kind of program but it would have to be coordinated by someone in the community. The Authority does not encourage the burn barrels or anything similar.

Asked if a convenience center could be located here, Knight responded there is a manned convenience center just two miles from the stop light at Sea Mountain Highway and LRN Rd. He said that he does not see a convenience center on LRN Rd.

Asked if a burn barrel could still be used if there was a fire ban, Councilman Worley responded no. Asked if a burn pit for yard debris would be acceptable, he again responded no. He said there is support for bringing in the roll-up containers which should be the answer for burn barrels or pits.

Asked how often the cleanup could be done? Every month, every three months. Councilman Worley said whatever frequency the community wanted and could organize.

An attendee pointed out that the cleanup would not be the total answer as household trash and yard debris would have to be taken care of more frequently. Chairman Lazarus emphasized that the manned convenience center was just a few miles away and LRN county residents would have to find a way to take stuff to it.

  • LACK OF DRAINAGE/STORM DRAINS

TPCA BOD President Cathy Weis said that SCDOT-installed drains regularly become clogged and results in flooded homes and churches running the homes and endangering the health of residents. They need attention and cleaning by a professional road crew. It is not clear if additional drains are also needed.  A member of the community emphasized that she and her neighbors have frequent flooding and that they have not seen work on these drains in years.

SCDOT Commissioner Tony Cox said he was not aware if any work had been done on this problem.

Reverent Vaught asked for a contact name and number for whoever is responsible for clearing these drains. Kevin Blayton provided the name as Shannon Welsh, SCDOT District Maintenance 843 - 365-2130.

  • WATER QUALITY PROBLEMS

County Chairman Lazarus said there were about 60 homes in the Little River Neck area on wells and the county residents are having issues with them. At the last meeting the county representatives were made aware of the problem. Chairman Lazarus cited a young lady that had brought in a filter that was deplorable. 

He said that with Councilman Worley’s help they have been successful in secure a Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) that can be utilized to fund the work. He said the county has also been able to secure the money to hook up to the homes.  He said the county funding for the project is short about $234,000. Chairman Lazarus said county staff is working on that collectively with the City of North Myrtle Beach and the Grand Strand Water and Sewer Authority to hopefully close that gap. When the project is completed, while the homes currently on wells will have a monthly water bill, the tap fees are being paid for through these grants. There is an impact fee that the county is trying to keep from putting on residents’ backs. That is the next hurdle that Chairman Lazarus said they are trying to work out emphasizing that the CDBG is good for two years so the county has some time to work that out. 

A member of the community informed the gathering that he lives solely on social security and had recent well problems that he could ill afford.

Another member of the community said that at the last meeting extending the sewer service had been discussed. Chairman Lazarus responded that sewer will not be provided; that money was not available for both; they are tackling them one at a time and felt that water was the most important. He did not know when the water project could be started.

  • SPEEDING

TPCA President Cathy Weis stated that speeding continued to be a problem along LRN Rd and pointed out that the radar speed signs really helped. She gave Councilman Coyne credit for bringing the last one out. She asked if it could be brought back. Councilman Coyne responded he would see what he could do.

City Manager Mike Mahaney responded that every community wanted one and radar signs are few in number. He emphasized that the majority of speeding tickets on LRN Rd have been given to residents of Tidewater. That is reality he concluded.

Rick Munton, Tidewater resident added to the discussion that as a result of an accident occurring in Teal Lakes, he had an occasion to speak with an Officer Schick, a member of the NMB Police Department who is in charge of Highway Incident Traffic safety and Schick assured him Schick will be monitoring LRN RD as much as he can.

  • OTHER TOPICS

Left Turn Arrow at Sea Mountain and Hill Street

City manager Mike Mahaney responded that that is SCDOT’s responsibility. He said that SCDOT is not going to change the signaling to let one car through.  They are trying to move the maximum amount of traffic in a safe and efficient manner.  City Public Works Director, Kevin Blayton added that SCDOT has been experimenting with lead and lag left turn signaling throughout the city and will discuss this with them.

Cherry Grove Exit Ramp

One attendee mentioned the lack of signage and marking. The signage and marking was removed when the shopping center was put in and the road repaved.  No action was taken or asked for.

Abandoned junk cars

Bob Moss, VP TPCA said that he is often asked what can be done about what appears to be abandoned or junk cars at the residences along LRN Rd. He wanted to know from county representatives whether there were any ordinances or enforcement that is available.  Lt. Amos Berry, from the Horry County Police Environment Services, was in attendance and responded that there are regulations – there can only be one non-mobile vehicle and it must be covered in the back yard if there is access to the back yard, else it must be covered and in the driveway.  He said as a result of complaints, Environment Services has been here the last two weeks visiting residents and getting them into compliance. Some homeowners have debris or trash accumulation which they are responsible for keeping clean. Lt. Berry said is being addressed as well, stressing that Environment Services give them a reasonable time to get into compliance. Officer Barry said he may be contacted at 843 -915 8321 or individuals can contact Horry County Police Dispatch.

One community member asked for clarification about cars and circumstances whereby they would be fined. She was told that any car with a tag is ok and one without a tag but also covered is ok.  She expressed concern that the county could come in and remove a car and was told that the County would cite and fine a resident but it was their responsibility to remove a car.

Chairman Lazarus informed the gathering that abandoned or unlivable houses can be torn down. He said that they have torn down 4 and have 20 more on the list. Complaints are to be made to Horry County Code enforcement at 843-919 -5090.

Rev. Mildred Watson

Rev. Watson who is the pastor of the AME Church spoke on behalf of the congregation thanking Tidewater residents for their friendship and financial help. As a result, the congregation was able get back into their sanctuary on Easter Sunday.  She invited those that helped them so much to join them on the third Sunday in July.

Count

Name

Address

Phone

Email

1

Bokel

805 Bentley

843-249-3030

 

2

Solowey

5009 Gilbert Lane

 

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3

Hance

1415 Lighthouse Dr.

273-0232

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4

Schwertner

905 Tidewater Dr.

 

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5

Bill Hamilton

4949 Bucks Bluff Dr.

   

6

Gail Hamilton

4949 Bucks Bluff Dr.

   

7

Cioffi

913 Tidewater Dr.

   

8

Martin

56055 S. Island Dr.

 

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9

Fred Coyne

1600 James Island Dr.

   

10

Nikki Fontana

406 39th Ave. S.

   

11

Terry White

Belle Drive

   

12

Jerry Conroy

5028 Bucks Bluff Dr.

   

13

Lenny Digregorio

Teal Lakes #1621

   

14

Mary Stackhouse

1320 Jacks Circle

843-249-8830

 

15

David Schwerd

1301 2nd Ave, Conway, SC

843-915-7896

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16

Danny Knight

1301 2nd Ave, Conway, SC

843-222-5199

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17

Lynne Remedios

 

843-281-2811

 

18

Henry Phelps

1647 Harbor Drive

919-413-2054

 

19

Ed Boyer

 

843-281-1338

 

20

Lenny DeMarco

 

843-281-4748

 

21

Carol Buchner

942 Morrall Drive

   

22

Eileen Chambers

927 Tidewater

   

23

Mary Jane Bilicki

917 Tidewater

   

24

Peter Knecht

Lot 97 TW

   

25

Linnea Knecht

Lot 97 TW

   

26

Marlin Dawdy

HLV 3216

   

27

Bill Schuessler

Lot 143

843-280-4263

 

28

Mildred S. Watson

Little River Neck Rd

843-423-4149

 

29

Gerry Blake

 

843-249-7424

 

30

Carol Blake

 

843-249-7424

 

31

Craig Wink

5002 Buck Bluffs Drive

843-410-5359

 

32

Jim Hulen

805 Morrall Drive

843-280-0382

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33

Tim Weis

5004 Buck Bluffs Drive

843-427-7300

 

34

Jimmy Bessant

Jack’s Circle

843-424-1988

 

35

Marylou Convery

1318 Clipper

843-280-9270

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36

Steve Gosnell

4401 Privetts Rd, Conway

 

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37

Bob Cavanaugh

Lot 83

   

38

Rick Munton

211 TLV

   

39

Peg Munton

     

40

Diane Williams

1309 Brigantine Rd

843-427-4787

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41

Frank Williams

     

42

Connie Muirhead

1614 Burgee Ct

843-281-2106

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43

Jim Muirhead

     

44

Harold Wiegel

4616 S. Island Dr

843-385-1937

 

45

Carol Wiegel

     

46

Nancy Russell

919 Frinks

843-273-0498

 

47

Bruce E. Smith

1551 Spinnaker Dr.

843-273-0792

 

48

Roger Quinn

1311 Lighthouse Dr.

   

49

Gene Gordon

1221 Tidewater

   

50

Ellie Gordon

     

51

Jan Dempsey

1604 Bungee Crt

   

52

Mike Dempsey

     

53

Andrew Keyes

1622 Spinnaker Dr

   

54

Roger Bonner

1224 Spinnaker Dr.

843-427-4868

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55

James Burr

5105 Buck Bluffs Dr.

843-503-4513

 

56

Jon Denny

1413 Staysain Ln

843-249-7895

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57

Michele Denny

     

58

James Hoskins

1203 Pine Valley

803-546-9011

 

59

Maria Hoskins

     

60

Alvin Luciano

1221 TW #922

703-909-6697

 

61

Pat Dyle

808 Morrall Dr

843-280-7833

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62

James Wood

 

843-280-5556

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63

Eddie Link

908 Frinks Ct

843-249-3332

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64

Lois Aldinger

 

843-249-8970

 

65

Joe Aldinger

     

66

Nancy Blythe

 

843-249-7665

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67

Rev. Gilbert Vaught

Pleasant Meadows Church

843-672-6785

 

68

Radene Vaught

Pleasant Meadows Church

609-954-5661

 

69

Malcolm Macphee

1401 Lighthouse Dr #4311

 

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70

Joyce Macphee

     

71

Rian Burton

1833 Spinnaker

843-249-6597

 

72

Ed Curreri

5103 Buck’s Bluff Dr

843-273-0159

 

73

Peter Bruh

919 Heshbon

843-249-2093

 

74

Susanne Bruh

     

75

Mario Renzi

1326 Clipper

843-249-8705

 

76

Kathleen Renzi

     

77

Victoria Molner

5020 Bucks Bluff Dr.

843-273-4483

 

78

Kip Molner

     

79

Paul Weber

4741 Chester Rd

843-281-8505

 

80

Patrick Grunberg

1205 Pine Valley Dr.

843-280-2885

 

81

Joe Derus

804 Morrall Dr.

   

82

Jacqueline Maas

1551 Spinnaker #5930

843-655-7617

 

83

Pat Barnhill

1207 Pine Valley Dr.

 

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84

Robert Johnson

15455 Spinnaker Dr

   

85

Barbara Pard

Little River Neck

843-602-0649

 

86

Lattie Bellamy

 

843-249-1805